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ELECTED COMMITTE MEMBER'S OF A TENANT AND RESIDENT ASSOCITION

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9-Sep-2010 11:41 am

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Anonymous

Anonymous

9-Sep-2010 11:54 am

Probably.

Why do you ask? Have you been given the boot?

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Junior

Junior

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9-Sep-2010 12:06 pm

No they have no been booty.  I understand what is being done is bad practice.  Due to the fact no Constitution nor a Code of Conduct signed.

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Junior

Junior

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9-Sep-2010 8:56 pm

1154 Anoy.  Again you can suggest

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Chris

Chris

Location: Back at the podium
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9-Sep-2010 9:10 pm

To avoid faffing around - if you are with a HA, contact a Board Member to bring the matter to their attention and for their action - if they do not correct then they risk failing regulatory compliance, which they will not wish to do. - if you are with a LA, go straight to the Head of Housing with the same enquiry (you could go to thier 'Board' but the Councillor will most likely just contact the Head of Housing anyway so you will have saved some time - plus you can go to the Councillor if you do not get what is required from the Head of Housing.)

Alternatively - and always a good place to start - speak to the people concerned to find out why the meetings are being conducted this way, then speak to whoever services the meeting or leads the RI function to see if they are aware and can correct. You then have the top people to go to if these approaches fail.

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Bill Pearson

Bill Pearson

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4-Oct-2010 11:49 am

Contact a board member, that's a joke. According to Nationla Housing Federation rules which are the company rules of most LVST associations the boards are only accountable to the company and tenant board members do not represent the area or the tenants who elected them.

The intergroup aggreements are even more biased towards the excutives short of been caught with their fingers in the till they are untouchable, fireproof and bombproof.

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Junior

Junior

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4-Oct-2010 12:00 pm

I agree with you William we been trying since December, 2008 and promise after promise broken then in a meeting in March, 2010 we voted to meeting the Board in June, 2010 well it came and well and we still pushing to get into see them.  I know what I like to call the people sitting on these board's not worth the paper written on and now our Housing Association using co-regulation has a weapon not to see them.  We proof in a case last year that staff under a complaint was breaches the codes and maladminstration we still awaiting for the board to apologies to us.

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kass

kass

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4-Oct-2010 12:00 pm

Yes, William... Having tenants on executive boards is the greatest ongoing con for social housing residents.

anyone who speaks to social residents will soon realise that the greatest majority of them believe these tenants on executive boards are there to represent social residents.  But they are not.

There is no democratic social residents representation in social housing.  We, and millions like us, have no real say about our own homes.

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Junior

Junior

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4-Oct-2010 12:11 pm

I agree with you Kass - we was conned believe that Resident Board Members would/could bring to the attend the Resident's concerns - i.e. ASB system, Complaint, Major Repairs, Repair, NOT WORKING AND RESIDENT WITH NO EVIDENT CANNOT MAKE A COMPLAINT AND IN COMPLAINTS MANAGEMENT 99 PER CENT OF THE CASE TAKES THE MANAGEMENT/STAFF SIDE and the Complaints System Stage three with those nodding dog's resident's and Managerment/Board never going to come down on your side.  Why do not these Resident's Chair Board Member's step down.  I know I would of done.  More than likely never had a title and all they are is nodding heads/dog's/horse's.

One Tenant one Vote put the People/Resident's in them seat's who know what is going on and get them lazy staff and management doing a job of work for  the pay.

We need someone in the know to set up a Resident Champion Group for the Resident's with no government funding.

Go and look at "The Sheltering Homes UK" a pure organsation that people can trust

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ivor williams

ivor williams

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4-Oct-2010 3:02 pm

Once again your are tarring all HA with the brush your housing assco treated tarred you with. I have been a tenant broad member for 8 years and i was voted on to the broad by the tenants in my area. I believe I give service to all the tenants in our houses, They could come to me with their question's and I would inderver in get a answers for them, to be honest most times things where sorted out to everybodies satisfaction, but in some  cases they could not be. I have sat on complaint panels and Have had staff and Dirictors amost in tears because of the way they have treated tenants, so please do not call me a nodding dog/horse because I take great afence to that.

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kass

kass

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4-Oct-2010 4:24 pm

ivor williams,

when someone says politicians are corrupt does not mean every single one of them is corrupt.  And if you are a politicians and you take an offence at that as being direct at you personally can only mean, whehter you are corrupt of not yourself, it is not going to change what voters feel about politiciians. 

Well, it's exactly the same with social housing. 

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kass

kass

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4-Oct-2010 4:26 pm

ooops... something got lost in my post.

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ivor williams

ivor williams

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4-Oct-2010 4:56 pm

Kass I do not understand what you are trying to say, are you saying because I have been elected to my broad, and because I have a HA which tries to do its best for its tenants I most be corrupt in some way, or because I find it upsetting to be called a noddy dog/ horse that I should not take it personally I'am not a politician, just a tenant who believes I  should have some say in the management of the home I live in I have not sold out my fellow tenants for a title as some of the posters on here think board members do, I get no special treatment for being a board member and i treat all tenants as my equal, so once again do not call all tenant board members nodding dogs/horses please.

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kass

kass

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4-Oct-2010 5:17 pm

ivor williams,

what I am saying is that every single politician you ask to will tell you they are trying to do their best.  Still there is as hell of a lot of corruption in politics.  How do you explain that?  And why would it be different in social housing?  

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ivor williams

ivor williams

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4-Oct-2010 5:29 pm

Kass You Have still not answered my question do you believe I'am corrupt, or could I be just upsetted in being called a nodding dog/horse.

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kass

kass

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4-Oct-2010 5:49 pm

Ivor williams,

have ever challenged your Ceo of being a bully in a board meeting?  Have you ever raised an issue in which you found and injusctice had been committed against tenants at board level? Have you ever lied or simply kept quiet to protect your organisation?

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ivor williams

ivor williams

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4-Oct-2010 8:56 pm

I see what you are trying to do, no I have not called him a bully, but I did say to him not to throw his toys out of the pram  when we would not do what he wanted the board to do, no I have never lied or simply kept quiet to protect my organisation, when they have never in all my time on the board tried to hurt the tenants, as i have said not all HA are the same you have had a bad time with your one.

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ivor williams

ivor williams

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4-Oct-2010 8:58 pm

Kass once again you have not answered my question

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kass

kass

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4-Oct-2010 10:39 pm

Ivor williams,

all the ceos who have been made to leave their jobs, all housing staff of have been sacked for being racist or worse, have been all the time telling their customers that they were not bullies or racists or whatever, only to be found out later.  If even that does not answer your question ask me again.

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Rick Campbell

Rick Campbell

Location: Macclesfield CHESHIRE
Posts: 407

5-Oct-2010 3:03 am

Perhaps if an element of a HA's governance is not up to scratch then the simplest way, should the usual channels fail. is to use the unusual channels?

A good dose of bad publicity in the local press could and does work wonders.

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Bill Douses

Bill Douses

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5-Oct-2010 8:32 am

Ivor - take my advice and don't waste your time trying to get a coherent, reasoned and direct response from Kass for any questions. you will not get them.

full credit to you for taking part as a member of a board, a (mostly) thankless task which you are sadly condemned for as no matter what you do you cannot please all the people all the time. do not get disheartened by the "name callers" alas when someone has had a bad experience it will taint their perception.

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